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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="-1">Dear Otto and
        colleagues,<br>
        <br>
        Thanks for the curious story and sorry that my absorption in low
        level administrative themes has knocked me down-down during
        these weeks. But not being a physicist, and even not a third
        rate aficionado, I can contribute very little to the exchanges.
        At least I will try to remark a couple of lateral aspects:<br>
        <br>
        First, when I heard about this story, I was amazed how
        hysterical the web records were. On the one side, the tabloid
        style comments and the malicious personal attacks, and on the
        other side the offended, irritated scientists. That your opinion
        deserved a "Charge of the Nobel Brigade" with all those big
        names hurried together to smitten any possible doubt, was sort
        of humorous. Wasn't <span class="spell">from Horace that saying
          of "vociferant montes et parturient ridiculus mus"? My
          impression is that all those hyperactive new media have
          deteriorated the exchange and maturation of scientific
          opinion. The fate of your position on those hypothetic risks
          was </span></font><font size="-1"><span class="spell">irrationally
        </span></font><font size="-1"><span class="spell">discounted.<br>
          <br>
          And about the theme itself, I join one of the initial comments
          on the energy of singular cosmic rays, probabilistically
          having to cause such microscopic destructive  black holes in
          The Moon and somewhere else. The wide swaths of the cosmos we
          watch today do not show sudden instances of planet or star
          disappearance.  As many thousands and millions of those are
          well followed nowadays without reports of sudden destruction:
          can this "stable" cosmos be an extra argument in the
          discussion? Let me improvise some further views: Black holes
          relate "quite a bit" to information matters. The controversy
          between Hawking, Penrose, etc. about the fate of the quantum
          information engulfed seemingly emitted is not the end of the
          story I think. If everything should make functional sense in
          an integrated "organismic" cosmos, the functionality of black
          holes is really enigmatic. They just become a reservoir of
          dark matter for gravity? In this point our common friend
          Michael Conrad (1996) put</span></font><span class="st"><font
          size="-1"> "<em>when we look at a biological system we</em>
          are looking at the face of the underlying <em>physics of the
            universe</em>." Thereupon, I have always thought about the
          similarity between cellular proteasomes (protein destructing
          machines) and the cosmic (destructive) black holes. But the
          former RECYCLE and emit single amino acid components for
          reuse, and then would the latter provide only residual
          gravity? Lee Smolin said something bold: they recycle too, and
          produce "baby universes" with slightly altered laws of nature.
          Our planet final blimps would have some more fun incorporated
          (with the big IF, of course)... <br>
          <br>
          Best wishes<br>
          <br>
          --Pedro<br>
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        <br>
        <br>
      </span>  lEl 11/01/2017 a las 11:33, Otto E. Rossler escribió:<br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258451"><span>I like
            this response from Lou,</span></div>
        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258564"><span>Otto</span></div>
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                  <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                  Louis H Kauffman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:loukau@gmail.com"><loukau@gmail.com></a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                  Pedro C. Marijuan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es"><pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es></a>
                  <br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> fis
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"><fis@listas.unizar.es></a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                  Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:09 PM<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [Fis] A Curious Story<br>
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                  <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258474">Dear
                    Folks,
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258473">It is
                      very important to not be hasty and assume that the
                      warning Professor Rossler made is to be taken
                      seriously.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258479">It is
                      relatively easy to check if a mathematical
                      reasoning is true or false.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258478">It is
                      much more difficult to see if a piece of
                      mathematics is correctly alligned to physical
                      prediction.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258477">Note
                      also that a reaction such as </div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258476">"THIS
                      STORY IS A GOOD REASON FOR SHUTTING DOWN CERN
                      PERMANENTLY AND SAVING A LOT OF LARGELY WASTED
                      MONEY.”.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258480">Is not
                      in the form of scientific rational discussion, but
                      rather in the form of taking a given conclusion
                      for granted</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258481"> and
                      using it to support another opinion that is just
                      that - an opinion. </div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258569"><br
                        class="yiv3119214735" clear="none">
                    </div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258567">By
                      concatenating such behaviors we arrive at the
                      present political state of the world.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258568"><br
                        class="yiv3119214735" clear="none">
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                    <div class="yiv3119214735">This is why, in my
                      letter, I have asked for an honest discussion of
                      the possible validity of Professor Rossler’s
                      arguments.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258483"><br
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                    </div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258485">At
                      this point I run out of commentary room for this
                      week and I shall read and look forward to making
                      further comments next week.</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258561">Best,</div>
                    <div class="yiv3119214735"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258513">Lou
                      Kauffman</div>
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                            <div class="yiv3119214735"
                              id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258506">On
                              Jan 9, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Pedro C. Marijuan
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
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                                target="_blank"
                                href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es"
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258515">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a>>
                              wrote:</div>
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                          id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258505">From
                          Alex Hankey</div>
                        <div class="yiv3119214735">-------- Mensaje
                          reenviado --------</div>
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                                  id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258557">Re:
                                  [Fis] A Curious Story</td>
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                                  id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258486">Sun,
                                  8 Jan 2017 19:55:55 +0530</td>
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                                  class="yiv3119214735">Alex Hankey <a
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                                    href="mailto:alexhankey@gmail.com"><alexhankey@gmail.com></a></td>
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                                  MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <a
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                      <div class="yiv3119214735" dir="ltr">THIS STORY IS
                        A GOOD REASON FOR SHUTTING DOWN CERN PERMANENTLY
                        AND SAVING A LOT OF LARGELY WASTED MONEY.</div>
                      <div class="yiv3119214735gmail_extra"
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                        <div class="yiv3119214735gmail_quote"
                          id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258520">On
                          5 January 2017 at 16:36, PEDRO CLEMENTE
                          MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <span
                            class="yiv3119214735" dir="ltr"><<a
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                          wrote:<br class="yiv3119214735" clear="none">
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id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258517">Dear FISers,
                                <div class="yiv3119214735"
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                                <div class="yiv3119214735"
                                  id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258555">Herewith
                                  the Lecture inaugurating our 2017
                                  sessions.</div>
                                <div class="yiv3119214735">I really hope
                                  that this Curious Story is just that,
                                  a curiosity.</div>
                                <div class="yiv3119214735">But in
                                  science we should not look for hopes
                                  but for arguments and
                                  counter-arguments...</div>
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                                </div>
                                <div class="yiv3119214735"
                                  id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258551">Best
                                  wishes to All and exciting times for
                                  the New Year!</div>
                                <div class="yiv3119214735"
                                  id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483728784718_258552">--Pedro</div>
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                                            class="yiv3119214735">De:</b>
                                          Otto E. Rossler [<a
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                                          <b class="yiv3119214735">Enviado
                                            el:</b> miércoles, 04 de
                                          enero de 2017 17:51<br
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                                          <b class="yiv3119214735">Para:</b>
                                          PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN
                                          FERNANDEZ<br
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                                          <b class="yiv3119214735">Asunto:</b> NY
                                          session<br
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style="font-size:20.0pt;" lang="EN-US">A Curious Story</span></b></div>
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">Otto
                                              E. Rossler, University of
                                              Tübingen, Germany<br
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">Maybe
                                              I am the only one who
                                              finds it curious. Which
                                              fact would then make it
                                              even more curious for me.
                                              It goes like this: Someone
                                              says “I can save your
                                              house from a time bomb
                                              planted into the basement”
                                              and you respond by saying
                                              “I don’t care.” This
                                              curious story is taken
                                              from the Buddhist bible. 
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">It
                                              of course depends on who
                                              is offering to help. It
                                              could be a lunatic person
                                              claiming that he alone can
                                              save the planet from a
                                              time-bomb about to be
                                              planted into it. In that
                                              case, there would be no
                                              reason to worry. On the
                                              other hand, it could also
                                              be that you, the manager,
                                              are a bit high at the
                                              moment so that you don't
                                              fully appreciate the offer
                                              made to you. How serious
                                              is my offer herewith made
                                              to you today?</span></div>
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">I
                                              only say that for eight
                                              years' time already, there
                                              exists no counter-proof in
                                              the literature to my at
                                              first highly publicized
                                              proof of danger. I was
                                              able to demonstrate that
                                              the miniature black holes
                                              officially attempted to be
                                              produced at CERN do
                                              possess two radically new
                                              properties: <br
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style="font-family:Symbol;" lang="EN-US"><span class="yiv3119214735"
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                                                style="" lang="EN-US">they
                                                cannot Hawking evaporate
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class="yiv3119214735"
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                                                style="" lang="EN-US">they
                                                grow exponentially
                                                inside matter</span><br
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">If
                                              these two findings hold
                                              water, the current attempt
                                              at producing ultra-slow
                                              miniature black holes on
                                              earth near the town of
                                              Geneva means that the
                                              slower-most specimen will
                                              get stuck inside earth and
                                              grow there exponentially
                                              to turn the planet into a
                                              2-cm black hole after
                                              several of undetectable
                                              growth. Therefore the
                                              current attempt of CERN's
                                              to produce them near
                                              Geneva is a bit curious. </span></div>
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">What
                                              is so curious about CERN's
                                              attempt? It is the fact
                                              that no one finds it
                                              curious. I am reminded of
                                              an old joke: The professor
                                              informs the candidate
                                              about the outcome of the
                                              oral exam with the
                                              following words “You are
                                              bound to laugh but you
                                              have flunked the test.” I
                                              never understood the
                                              punchline. I likewise
                                              cannot understand why a
                                              never refuted proof of the
                                              biggest danger of history
                                              leaves everyone
                                              unconcerned. Why NOT check
                                              an unattended piece of
                                              luggage on the airport
                                              called Earth? <span
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                                              style="" lang="EN-US">To
                                              my mind, this is the most
                                              curious story ever -- for
                                              the very reason that
                                              everyone finds it boring.
                                              A successful counter-proof
                                              would thus alleviate but a
                                              single person’s fears –
                                              mine. You, my dear reader,
                                              are thus my last hope that
                                              you might be able to
                                              explain the punch line to
                                              me: “Why is it that it
                                              does not matter downstairs
                                              that the first floor is
                                              ablaze?” I am genuinely
                                              curious to learn why
                                              attempting planetocide is
                                              fun.  Are you not?<br
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