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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear All,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy New Year indeed! Let us all 'hope' (here OK)
that 2017 does not turn into 1984. . .</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regarding the proposed discussion topic, I have two
suggestions:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1) everyone should read, at least, the excellent
and recent (Dec., 2016) Wikipedia article on Small Black Holes, so that we can
share a minimum background (sic);</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2) Otto should please tell us his theory of why
miniature black holes from any source should not Hawking evaporate after
exhausting the matter within a Fermi distance, thus eliminating the possibility
of further growth.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>'Cheers',</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joseph</FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es">PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=fis@listas.unizar.es
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:06
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Fis] A Curious Story</DIV>
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<DIV>Herewith the Lecture inaugurating our 2017 sessions.</DIV>
<DIV>I really hope that this Curious Story is just that, a curiosity.</DIV>
<DIV>But in science we should not look for hopes but for arguments and
counter-arguments...</DIV>
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<DIV>Best wishes to All and exciting times for the New Year!</DIV>
<DIV>--Pedro</DIV>
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<DIV id=divRpF987497 style="DIRECTION: ltr"><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000
size=2><B>De:</B> Otto E. Rossler [oeross00@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Enviado el:</B>
miércoles, 04 de enero de 2017 17:51<BR><B>Para:</B> PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN
FERNANDEZ<BR><B>Asunto:</B> NY session<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10544><B
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10545><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10546
style="FONT-SIZE: 20pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">A Curious
Story</SPAN></B></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10547><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10548
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10549><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10550
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Otto E. Rossler, University of
Tübingen, Germany<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10764><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10550
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10763><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10550
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Maybe I am the only one who finds
it curious. Which fact would then make it even more curious for me. It goes
like this: Someone says “I can save your house from a time bomb planted into
the basement” and you respond by saying “I don’t care.” This curious story is
taken from the Buddhist bible. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10551><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10552
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10553 dir=ltr><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10554
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">It of course depends on who is
offering to help. It could be a lunatic person claiming that he alone can save
the planet from a time-bomb about to be planted into it. In that case, there
would be no reason to worry. On the other hand, it could also be that you, the
manager, are a bit high at the moment so that you don't fully appreciate the
offer made to you. How serious is my offer herewith made to you
today?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10555><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10556
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10557><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10558
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I only say that for eight years'
time already, there exists no counter-proof in the literature to my at first
highly publicized proof of danger. I was able to demonstrate that the
miniature black holes officially attempted to be produced at CERN do possess
two radically new properties: <BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11913><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
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<LI id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11920><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11967 style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol"><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11968><SPAN
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style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11970
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">they cannot Hawking evaporate
</SPAN>
<LI id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11921><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_12016 style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol"><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_12017><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_12018
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_12019
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">they grow exponentially inside
matter</SPAN><BR id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_11922></LI></UL><SPAN
lang=EN-US id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10565
style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol"><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10566><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10567
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10568
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10569><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10570
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If these two findings hold water,
the current attempt at producing ultra-slow miniature black holes on earth
near the town of Geneva means that the slower-most specimen will get stuck
inside earth and grow there exponentially to turn the planet into a 2-cm black
hole after several of undetectable growth. Therefore the current attempt of
CERN's to produce them near Geneva is a bit curious. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10571><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10572
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10573><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10574
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">What is so curious about CERN's
attempt? It is the fact that no one finds it curious. I am reminded of an old
joke: The professor informs the candidate about the outcome of the oral exam
with the following words “You are bound to laugh but you have flunked the
test.” I never understood the punchline. I likewise cannot understand why a
never refuted proof of the biggest danger of history leaves everyone
unconcerned. Why NOT check an unattended piece of luggage on the airport
called Earth? <SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10575> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10576><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10577
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10578><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10579
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">To my mind, this is the most
curious story ever -- for the very reason that everyone finds it boring. A
successful counter-proof would thus alleviate but a single person’s fears –
mine. You, my dear reader, are thus my last hope that you might be able to
explain the punch line to me: “Why is it that it does not matter downstairs
that the first floor is ablaze?” I am genuinely curious to learn why
attempting planetocide is fun. Are you not?<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_15051><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10579
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_15055><SPAN lang=EN-US
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483543774452_10579
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">For J.O.R.<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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