<p dir="ltr">Il en a une definition formelle, mathematique, pratique du ce qui est nomme "information" contenu dans ma livre Ordres Naturels. Amazon et al.<br>
Karl</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 Nov 2016 15:43, "Michel Godron" <<a href="mailto:migodron@wanadoo.fr">migodron@wanadoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I may understand why in "quantum foundations" nobody can define rigorously the basic term "information".<br>
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But, in agreement with Progogine, Brillouin, etc. information mays be defined rigorously in macro -systems.<br>
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I could explain more in french.<br>
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Cordialement. M. Godron<div class="elided-text"><br>
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Le 04/11/2016 à 09:17, Andrei Khrennikov a écrit :<br>
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Dear all,<br>
I want to comment so called information approach to physics, by speaking with hundreds of leading experts<br>
in quantum foundations, I found that nobody can define rigorously the basic term "information" which is so widely<br>
used in their theories and discussions, the answers are as "information is the basic entity" which cannot be defined<br>
in other terms. Well, my impression is that without novel understanding and definition of information all these "theories"<br>
are practically empty, well very good mathematical exercises. May be I am too critical... But I spent so much time by trying<br>
to understand what people are talking about. The output is ZERO.<br>
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all the best, andrei<br>
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John:<br>
The article describes very really the conflicting attitudes. Interesting to see the diverse arguments together.<br>
I agree, some think so, some do not. I do the latter, but this does not make any matter.<br>
Gyuri<br>
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On 2016.11.03. 19:52, John Collier wrote:<br>
Apparently some physicists think so.<br>
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