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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">John Collier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Fis [mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michel Godron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 08 July 2016 4:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> fis@listas.unizar.es; loet@leydesdorff.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Essential Core?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>My responses are in red<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bien reçu votre message. MERCI. Cordialement. M. Godron<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 08/07/2016 à 14:42, Pedro C. Marijuan a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear FIS Colleagues,<br>
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Some brief responses to the different parties:<br>
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Marcus: there were several sessions dealing with info physics, where I remember some historical connotations with mechanics emerged. Mostly 1998 and 2002 chaired by Koichiro Matsuno and 2004 by Michel Petitjean. Afterwards the theme has surfaced relatively
often. About the present possibilities for a UTI, my opinion is that strictly remaining within Shannon's and anthropocentric discourse boundaries there is no way out.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">Yes, but it is not the same with Brillouin's information : I could send to you a text in French which gives a demonstration of the convergence between that information and thermodynamical neguentropy. Since twenty
years, I did not find an english review which was interested by this problem, because I am biologist and the biological reviews were not interested.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[John Collier] I agree. I have read only an English translation of Science and Information Theory. I read it as an undergrad, and it has strongly influenced
my views. It is unfortunate, I think, that it hasn’t influenced English speaking scientists much. I have also seen some bad misreadings of what he was saying.</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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