<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Pedro’s recommendation, I am forwarding this exchange to the list.<div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Lou<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Louis H Kauffman <<a href="mailto:loukau@gmail.com" class="">loukau@gmail.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: Vol 25, #32, Nature of Self</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">April 29, 2016 at 12:12:26 PM EDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Alex Hankey <<a href="mailto:alexhankey@gmail.com" class="">alexhankey@gmail.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Pedro C. Marijuan" <<a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" class="">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Alex,<div class="">In set theory, the empty set can be regarded as ‘framing nothing’.</div><div class="">Thus it is denoted by an empty container { }.</div><div class="">The properties of the container are not relevant, only that ‘it’ manages the act of containment.</div><div class="">“We therefore take the form of distinction for the form.”</div><div class="">From there, one generates all the multiplicities in mathematics by further acts of framing.</div><div class="">{ }</div><div class="">{ { } }</div><div class="">{ { }, { { } } }</div><div class="">ad infinitum.</div><div class="">If we said this in LOF it would be essentially the same, but parsimonious in that the comma as an extra distinction would not be needed.</div><div class="">If A is a set, then {A} is another set obtained by the act of framing. We see it all as ‘framing nothing’ when the sets are traced back to their empty origins as in </div><div class="">the layers of an onion. Some layering might have to be traced back forever alas as in {{{{{…}}}}}. This is why set theorists are not happy to have sets that are members of themselves at the foundation. Nevertheless, in order to have language at all, self-reference is necessary. In LOF the mark < > is seen to be a distinction and to refer to a distinction and so refers to itself.</div><div class="">At that point one realizes that in the form, the mark and the reader or writer or observer are identical. Tat tvam asi.</div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Lou</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 29, 2016, at 5:47 AM, Alex Hankey <<a href="mailto:alexhankey@gmail.com" class="">alexhankey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">RE 1 Louis Kauffman: Emptiness is form and form is emptiness. The form we take to exist arises from framing nothing.</span><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">RE 2: </span><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">The objects of our thought and perception are so laden with the names and symbols that have been shifted to them, that their ?original nature? is nearly invisible. </span><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ME 1: Many philosophers of the East, such as Nagarjuna and Adishankara agree that when one realizes that the real 'Self' has no form (and no history of change) that this frees the embodied soul from being trapped in forms that get reincarnated in time. It is the Ultimate Liberating Realization! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The Maharishi International University mathematician, Michael Weinless, formerly an Asst Prof at Harvard, was correspondingly fond of RusselL's distinction between <span lang="EN-IN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">ϕ and [</span><span lang="EN-IN" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">ϕ]. </span></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class="">Is this the same as what you are referring to, the 'framing of nothing'?</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class="">ME(2): I suspect that the cognitions of a fully </span></font><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 16px;" class="">enlightened person </span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">is acutely aware of the additional nonsense that has surrounded the original simplicity in such cases. </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">E.G. 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