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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Dear Soren,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is very strange for me to read yours –as usual very learned – text, because your understanding of what it is I am trying to do is so different from my own understanding. Though I have had great pleasure of reading you works over the years I am not sure that you have read much of mine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I read quite a bit of your texts, but I may have misunderstood. In that case, I apologize.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Non-biologist usually underestimate the complexity of biological processes. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I do not know what you mean when you write about semiotics that it’s:” status is not different from a methodology or a mathematical theory of communication”? You seem to assume some postulate from me that is not explicit in the text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I formulated (quote):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>“A mathematical theory of information (e.g., Shannon) enables us to entertain models that one can use from one level to another, for testing hypothesis. These models may come from biology (e.g. Lotka-Volterra), engineering (anticipatory systems; Dubois), complex systems theory (Simon, Ashby), etc. For example: can interactions among codes be modeled using Lotka-Volterra? (Ivanova &Leydesdorff, 2014; in Scientometrics). The math is not meta, but epi because the other domains can also be considered as specific domains of communication. Maturana, for example, argues that a biology is generated whenever molecules can be communicated (as more complex than atoms exchanged in a chemistry).”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>3. But of cause if you deny the central idea in systems theory and especially Luhmann’s triple autopoietic theory of closed communication systems, which I have accepted but want to put into a semiotic, pragmaticist methodology and metaphysical framework, then of cause we do not speak the same language at all and may be in a situation of incommensurability. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I am not so sure that inter-human communications are closed in terms of codes being unambiguous. It seems to me that differently coded communications can always be translated more or less. Luhmann is often too apodictic. For example, his notion of “truth” as the code for scholarly communication seems not to hold empirically.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Let’s enjoy the communication. I am sorry if I offended you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Loet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>It is my feeling that you do not see what I see and attempts to communicate and that you project postulates from scientistic researcher onto my theory blocking you from seeing what it is I want to communicate. So I do not know if we disagree – because that demands some mutual level of understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'> Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'> Søren<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>