<div dir="ltr">Caro Joseph e Cari Tutti,<div>l'energia è l'informazione della natura e l'informazione è l'energia della cultura.</div><div>L'energia libera o neg-entropia vitale non è altro che conseguenza del gradiente termico o differenza tra molecole calde e veloci e molecole fredde e lente di un gas, quindi è una particolare forma di informazione, cancellata la quale si ha un equilibrio termico o mortale: una sorta di dis-informazione o entropia (termodinamica) che confonde e omogeneizza le molecole, degradando l'energia e rendendola non più trasformabile in lavoro utile o meccanico.. </div><div>L'informazione è energia della cultura che dà luogo ad una carica attrattiva o detrattiva tipica della teoria del caos o dei bacini culturali, come a me piace chiamarli. Sicché un bacino archeologico, ad es., diventa un faro che illumina la pianificazione o la rigenerazione urbanistica o un museo si struttura e funziona come una città viva e alla luce del sole: crea ordine dal disordine mediante fluttuazioni e instabilità (struttura dissipativa); in questa prospettiva l'entropia assume la sostanza e la forma di un costo della neg-entropia.. </div><div>Gli esempi potrebbero continuare, ma sfuggo alla tentazione di ingrossare questo elenco. Perché qualunque altro sistema che si auto o etero-organizza dovrebbe fare eccezione? Biologia, fisica, chimica, matematica, economia, sociologia, etc., sono in-centrate su questa singolare e generale, ad un tempo, conoscenza della conoscenza.</div><div>La mia teoria del valore (economico) è frutto della combinazione creativa di energia e di informazione. Ma la mia scienza dell'economia svolge una funzione mediatrice; è un'ancella della conoscenza generale, cioè un'economia della scienza. I sistemi complessi non possono comprendersi se non alla luce dell'una, energia, e dell'altra, informazione.</div><div>Di ciò sono fermamente convinto, anche se essendo un "poverino esponenziale", sono sempre grato se qualcuno mi fa la cortesia di correggere il mio pensiero pensante. Che può prendere qualche cantonata.</div><div>Un abbraccio sincero.</div><div>Francesco.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-13 12:09 GMT+01:00 Joseph Brenner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dear Pedro,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I agree with your presentation here of the dynamics
of informational entities and the necessary dominance of the informational
realm. But my reaction to your placing the energetic and informational realm
in a kind of opposition was a Capurrian 'hm'. What is still and will
be always needed is a proper description of the relation between the two.
The principles of Logic in Reality may provide that relation without being
'thermodynamic inflation', and I believe more attention should be paid to the
relation than any disjunction. We have had too much of
<em>those</em>.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regarding social complexity, the long-term trend is
probably irreversible. Short-term, in spite of the 'inventions', processes of
regression and reduction are now flourishing world-wide. Fukuyama is one of
people I personally trust least to say what's wrong here.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Gloomily,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Joseph</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>
<a title="pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank">Pedro C. Marijuan</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="fis@listas.unizar.es" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">'fis'</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 11, 2015 1:36
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Sustainability through
multilevel research:</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><br></div>Dear FISers,<br><br>I
agree with Loet's views (for once! <span><span>:-)
</span></span>). The energy flow supporting the biosphere and society as
a whole have not much explanatory power regarding the bonding complexity of
contemporary societies. Of course, it is an interesting exercise, particularly
concerning the limits of sustainability, but we have had so much thermodynamic
inflation that it is very difficult adding anything relevant. Irrespective of
its sophistication, the energetic realm can hardly substitute for the
informational realm. <br>About the intriguing interrelationship between
kinship and nonkinship modalities of human bonding, a very interesting view
was drafted by Francis Fukuyama (1995), centered on "trust". He was
distinguishing between "familial" centered societies and "high trust"
societies. In European terms (exaggerating), it is the dichotomy between the
Mediterranean societal culture and the Anglosaxon culture. It is not a black
and white narrative, as each polarity has advantages and disadvantages (think
on wine & Mediterranean food!), and actually today each country and each
culture has some terrible mix of everything, but it is interesting just to see
how the two kinds of bonding may interact within a complex society. I
also penned a few ideas about the matter in my recent "How the Living is in
the world"<small><small> </small></small><big><big><small><small>(DOI
information: 10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002.) I am copying below a paragraph
(maybe a little bit long--excuses). </small></small></big></big><i><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:11pt"><big><br><br>This coarse reflection on the
dynamics of successive “informational entities” helps us make sense of
fundamentals of social evolution. The transition to a new social order, more
or less ‘revolutionary’, tends to be produced by new information channels and
communication practices that support the emergence of new ways to organize the
structures of social self-production. Thus, the development of social
complexity appears as irreversibly linked to a chain of historical inventions
for communication and knowledge generation: numbers, writing, alphabet,
codices, universities, printing press, books, steam engines, means of
communication, computers, Internet, etc. (Stonier, 1990; Hobart and Schiffman,
1998). This succession of fundamental inventions has dramatically altered the
“infostructure” of modern societies, and subsequently the informational
formula for being in the world has been applied with multiple variants along
that complexity runaway: with plenty of room generated by the new information
tools, not at the bottom but at the supra-individual top. We should not forget
that the momentous Scientific Revolution was preceded by what has been called
the silent “corporate revolution” (Huff, 2011), which opened the way for
collective organizations legally autonomous in European cities during XIII and
XIV centuries: universities, parliaments, counsels, municipalities,
professional colleges, guilds, mercantile associations, charities, schools,
etc. It was this Medieval awakening in the cities of Western Europe what made
possible the later hyperinflation of autonomous collective organizations,
–“information based”– growing exponentially and propelling all the further
complexity of modern societies.</big><u></u><u></u></span></i>
<big><big><br><small><small><br>All the
best--Pedro</small></small><br></big><br>Loet Leydesdorff wrote:</big>
<blockquote cite="http://mid002901d133ff$a3766f20$ea634d60$@leydesdorff.net" type="cite">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Dear
colleagues, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">I don’t
consider it as fruitful to recycle the argument that society were to be
modeled as a meta-biology. The biological explanation can perhaps explain
behavior of individuals and institutions; but social coordination more
generally involves also the dynamics of expectations. These are much more
abstract although conditioned by the historical layer. For example, one
cannot expect to explain the <i>trias politica</i> or the rule of law
biologically. These cultural constructs regulate our behavior from above,
whereas the biological supports existence and living from below. The
historical follows the axis of time, whereas the codification (albeit
historical in the instantiations) also restructures and potentially
intervenes and reorganizes social relations from the perspective of
hindsight.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">In
analogy to codifications such as the juridical ones, scientific knowledge
provides the code for technological intervention. This type of knowledge is
human-specific; perhaps, we are also able to build machines that mimick it.
This technological evolution is going on for centuries. If I look up from my
screen, I look into the gardens which have a typical Dutch polder
vegetation. The polder was made in the 17<sup>th</sup> century and replaced
the natural ecology of marsh land and lakes. The order of the explanation
was thus inverted: the constructed structures (instead of the constructing
agencies) increasingly carry the system. The constructs don’t have to be
material; see my example of the rule of law. It is not a religion, but a
dynamics of expectations. Replacing it with a biology misses the
point.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Loet<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN:center" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">
<hr align="center" width="100%" size="3">
</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Loet
Leydesdorff </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Professor,
University of Amsterdam<br>Amsterdam School of Communication Research
(ASCoR)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a title="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net" href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt">loet@leydesdorff.net </span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">;
</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a title="http://www.leydesdorff.net/" href="http://www.leydesdorff.net/" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt">http://www.leydesdorff.net/</span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">
<br></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Honorary
Professor, </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a href="http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt">SPRU,
</span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">University
of Sussex; <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Guest
Professor </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a href="http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt">Zhejiang
Univ.</span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">,
Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a href="http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt">ISTIC, </span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Beijing;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Visiting
Professor, </span><a name="1519b0903f3c51fb__GoBack"></a><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a href="http://www.bbk.ac.uk/" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt">Birkbeck</span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;COLOR:black;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'">,
University of London; <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><a href="http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-SIZE:9pt">http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(68,84,106);FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif'"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Fis [<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nikhil Joshi<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 11, 2015
9:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> FIS Group<br><b>Cc:</b> Nikhil
Joshi<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel
research: The Lifel, Deep Society Build-A-Thon -
1<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Dear Guy and FIS
colleagues,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Thank you for your comments and the copy of your
article. Your views on the roots of biological systems and their evolution
in dissipate systems are very interesting. Your paper reminds me of a paper
by Virgo and Froese on how simple dissipative structures can demonstrate
many of the characteristics associated with living systems, and the work of
Jeremy England at MIT.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Given your research focus and expertise in looking
at living systems as dissipative systems, I would appreciate your views
and assistance in understanding the energetics involved in the common
multilevel organisational pattern (CMOP) (presented in the paper II of the
kick-off mail).</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify">At first
glance, i<span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">t
appears that different levels in self-organization in living
systems a core dynamic in living systems is comprised of a cycle
between a class of more-stable species (coupled-composite species) and a
class of less-stable species (decoupled-composite species), see paper II in
the kick-off mail.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">hence:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Level 1: Molecular self-organization, involves a
cycle between oxidised molecules (more stable) and reduced molecules
(less stable) in molecular self-organization in
photosynthesis and cellular metabolism [Morowitz and
smith]. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify"><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Level 2: Cellular self-orgnaization, involves a
cycle between autotrophic species (more stable) and heterotrophic species
(less stable) in ecosystems [Stability of species types as defined
by- Yodzis and Innes Yodzis, P.; Innes, S. Body Size and
Consumer-Resource Dynamics. <i>Am. Nat.</i> 1992, <i>139</i>,
1151].</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify"><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in;TEXT-ALIGN:justify"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Level 3: Social self-self-organization,
involves a cycle between kinship-based social groups (more stable) and
non-kinship-based social groups (less stable) [Stability of species types as
suggested in Paper II, based on an extension of work of Robin Dunbar and
others]. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">At level 1 (molecular self-organiztion)- solar
energy is stored in the high-energy reduced molecules. Do you see
a possibility that living systems could store energy in cycles
involving less stable species at the two other levels (level 2, and 3) as
well? (When I speak of stored energy, I am referring to stored-energy
as introduced by Mclare, and discussed by Ulanowicz and Ho [Sustainable
Systems as Organisms?, </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times','serif'">BioSystems 82 (2005)
39–51]</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">These are early thoughts and your views are much
appreciated. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Many Thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Warm regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">Nikhil Joshi</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">On 01-Dec-2015, at 10:27 pm,
Guy A Hoelzer <<a href="mailto:hoelzer@unr.edu" target="_blank">hoelzer@unr.edu</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">I have been following this
thread with interest as much as time permits. I think multilevel
approaches to understanding information flow is an important one. I
also think the structure of natural systems exhibits both hierarchical and
heterarchical features. The hierarchies we formally recognize can be
extremely useful, but they are rarely exclusive of alternatives.
Here is a link to a paper Mark Tessera and I published a couple of
years ago arguing for one particular hierarchy of multilevel emergence in
physical systems connecting lower level physical systems to biological
systems:<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">Tessara, M., and G. A.
Hoelzer. 2013. On the thermodynamics of multilevel
evolution. Biosystems 113: 140–143.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">Guy<u></u><u></u></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in"><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT:0.5in">Guy Hoelzer,
Associate Professor<br>Department of Biology<br>University of Nevada
Reno<br><br>Phone: <a href="tel:775-784-4860" value="+17757844860" target="_blank">775-784-4860</a><br>Fax: <a href="tel:775-784-1302" value="+17757841302" target="_blank">775-784-1302</a><br><a href="mailto:hoelzer@unr.edu" target="_blank">hoelzer@unr.edu</a> <u></u><u></u></p></div>
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