<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">Caro Pedro e Cari Tutti,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">di queste e di altre cose simili, alternative e concorrenti ho parlato in non pochi miei saggi e, naturalmente,
continuerò a interessarmene. Qui mi limito ad elencare tre concetti molto
presenti nella mia </span><i style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">Nuova economia</i><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">:</span><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">– nella «economia
monetaria della produzione» di keynesiana memoria l’economia monetaria e l’economia
«reale» vengono unificate da un’analisi che non può non essere resiliente: flessibile o liquida la prima, rigida o illiquida la seconda;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">– la legge
fondamentale della scienza e dell’attività economica è proprio l’informazione,
intesa come processo che dà forma o, al contrario, dis–informa; la mia ultima mail ribadisce, d'accordo con un grande fisico, che l'informazione è la legge basilare dell'esistenza e della conoscenza;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">– in <i>Dalla rivoluzione keynesiana alla nuova
economia</i> ho esposto una teoria infor–monetaria che, forse, supera
alcune considerazioni problematiche di Mariyuan.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">E per concludere
questa breve interlocuzione, rivendico la primazia di avere affrontato il
problema complesso dell’auto–organizzazione nel campo dell’economia capitalistica, in-</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">cenrata sul processo di auto-valorizzazione del capitale di Karl Marx, per aver capito</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt"> che bisognava buttare alle ortiche quella pseudo–teoria neoclassica
che ha contribuito a provocare tanti guai nel mondo in cui viviamo. Ma chi ne è
a conoscenza?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">Un abbraccio.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt"> Francesco Rizzo.</span></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-12-02 21:30 GMT+01:00 John Prpic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.prpic@ltu.se" target="_blank">john.prpic@ltu.se</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I just ran across this new piece that I thought would be of interest to both the current conversation, and the many others that have occurred here. <br>
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<p>"The Bayesian Second Law of Thermodynamics"<br>
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<p>- <a href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/1508.02421v2.pdf" target="_blank">http://arxiv.org/pdf/1508.02421v2.pdf</a><br>
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<p>Best,<br>
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<p>John<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Fis <<a href="mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es</a>> on behalf of Pedro C. Marijuan <<a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'fis'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nikhil Joshi<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research:</font>
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<div><big><big><small>Dear FIS colleages, <br>
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Before assimilating the last exchanges (I have been on a trip), I have a few pending comments on self-organization and monetary resilience.<br>
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In some of the papers (links) Bob sent us, strong emphasis is put on "self-organization of complex flow systems sharing common patterns of behavior. Similar energy-flow concepts and analysis methods would apply to economic systems as well as natural ones..."
As the ongoing discussion shows, that view can be more or less OK, but... The network and subsequent IT analysis becomes appropriate for eco-systemic flows, but in my opinion it obscures a fundamental trait of eco-nomic flows: that they are guided and anticipated
by a superimposed structure of information flows. So there are two flows compounded, and each one is endowed with a specific fluency, velocity, friction, etc. radically different. Handling prices of goods or trading shares in a stock market is far away from
circulating the physical goods or from the physical and human structures of a company... Unfortunately the info-structure of economy is not satisfactorily solved yet (at least in my opinion), except the partial classical equilibrium approaches and some diminishing
returns and other nonlinear approaches. Presumably, a more complete vision cannot be articulated yet.
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Anyhow, Lietaer's application (in the paper with Goerner and Ulanowicz) of Bob's ecological criteria on resilience to the economic crisis looks enormously interesting. Some of the thinking lines of Nikhil could dovetail. The underlying problem is (at least
in my opinion) how to give voice to Nature, not only evaluating the value of human work done to extract the raw matter or to collect it, but also the caring work with no immediate return. Who may represent Nature herself and her interests in the human monetary
market? Analyzing the currency monopoly of our times, and the present financial crisis, the main alternative seems to be increasing the financial resilience by adding different types of currencies. The Swiss B2B complementary currency is mentioned in the papers
(other local, regional, and sectorial cases also exist, and the Internet may strongly facilitate such experiences). In this line, an ecologically based currency or eco-coin ("ecos") could pick the voluntary work done by individuals --not extracting for nature,
but working for her preservation and care. ONGs could certify the work properly done. Ecos could be a symbol of voluntary work done and also a personal prestige and moral reward for Nature "lovers". Quite many new people could be attracted to devote their
voluntary work to the direct stewardess of Nature (and not to political-ideological green activism) being compensated by ecos. The international clout of these ecos-coins could be considerable... and the certification could be reasonably organized in a very
ample scale. The present consciousness and fear of climatic change would ad social urgency and further potential importance... --Bob, could this "eco" idea may have any sense?
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All the best--Pedro</small><br>
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