<div dir="ltr">Thank you, Pedro.<div>Of course a complete analysis of all FIS message would be fantastic, but it is almost impossible (at least without AI) :-) </div><div>But I certainly will do Bibliometric quantitative and qualitative measures on FIS list in my PhD Thesis.</div><div>For that, a categorization is very important and the 5 momenta was a first step.</div><div>I agree that Information Science is in constant evolution (or even in a paradigmatic change) and FIS discussions must take this into account.<br></div><div><br></div><div>About the 'The Information Universe' Conference, is very good to see a new Physics area (Physics of Information) growing.<p class="MsoNormal"></p><br></div><div>Marcus said: </div><div>"tagging by the author would be preferred, and even better if tagging was part of the posting process (but not available with the software used)."</div><div>Yes, the spreadsheet was blocked, I am sorry for that.</div><div>But now the link to edit the spreadsheet is working fine:</div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Um abraço</div><div>Moisés.</div><div><br></div><div>. <br></div><div> </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-06 9:42 GMT-02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target="_blank">pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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Dear Moises and FIS Colleagues, <br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for the curious exploration. On the one side, it is
"normal" finding such results in a session more or less devoted to the
info locality topic --what results would be obtained by peering into
the whole discussion sessions ( starting in 1998! See:
<a href="http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/" target="_blank">http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/</a> ). On the other side,
I do not know whether it is too early to try to reify the momentum term
with ad hoc measurements. But, yes, measurement should be used to
clarify this nebulous idea, as it was just a metaphor stemming in the
middle of something else. That there are strategic topics withing those
fields below that should be realigned from the perspective of a nascent
or renewed information science looks clear. Or stated otherwise,
important "communicational" and "compositional" items in quite
different entities might participate in a new info synthesis. The
problem, and so the need of an "itinerary" is that they influence
mutually and a series of successive visits or iterative attempts are
needed for their coherent alignment. This necessary change of
directions seems to justify the momentum metaphor. For instance, as an
example in social science, it is curious that the
genotype-phenotype-sociotype triad has been proposed independently by
two authors (Elliot Berry and myself). Although with interesting
differences, the sociotype construct we propose, covering both the
relational structure of bonds and the communicative dynamics of each
individual within the social environment, is pregnant with
informational contents. Other similar topics in different fields would
clearly surface as strategic info momenta.<br>
<br>
By the way, a highly interesting conference on information has taken
place recently. See: <a href="http://physics.aps.org/articles/v8/103" target="_blank">http://physics.aps.org/articles/v8/103</a>
(courtesy of Malcolm Dean.) <i>"Scientists Meet in the Information
Universe: An innovative conference in the Netherlands brought together
scientists from diverse backgrounds to reflect on the ways information
shapes communication, science, and perhaps even nature itself." </i>Big
figures of Physics (Hooft, Fredkin...), cosmology and other scientific
branches have participated. Quite interesting but, in the light of
recent messages, allow me please this closing statement: "when the
emphasis in Instrumenta becomes Impedimenta... "<br>
<br>
All the best--Pedro<div><div class="h5"><br>
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Moisés André Nisenbaum wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, dear FISers.
<div>I finished to classify and count the messages in last discussion
topic.</div>
<div>It was 72 messages from sep/09 to oct/18.</div>
<div>I tagged each message in one or more momenta:</div>
<div>
<div>1) Philosophy (PHIL)</div>
<div>2) Biomolecular (primordials of life and cellular organization)
(BIO)</div>
<div>3) Organismic and the Neuronal (evolutionary outcomes) (ORG)</div>
<div>4) Human Sociality (up to social complexity) (SOC)</div>
<div>5) Communication and Information (IC)</div>
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<div>The results are the sum of tags below:</div>
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<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap">1)PHIL</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap">2)BIO</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap">3)ORG</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap">4)SOC</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap">5)IC</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap">6)Other</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:20px">
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap;text-align:right">32</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap;text-align:right">4</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap;text-align:right">16</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap;text-align:right">7</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap;text-align:right">8</td>
<td style="padding:0px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-family:Calibri;font-size:110%;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:nowrap;text-align:right">5</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>All the data and a graph are available at:</div>
<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/pubhtml" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/pubhtml</a><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Tagging was my interpretation. Of course authors tagging is
better. If you want to change your posts tagging, just access:</div>
<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/a/moisesandre.com.br/spreadsheets/d/1u6uOsVMvpMUKxzzdufNXhv2vItHE3LtgF-O_zn9m2oI/edit?usp=sharing</a></div>
<div>P.S. Be sure to change only YOUR posts tags.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Um abraço!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Moisés André Nisenbaum<br>
Doutorando IBICT/UFRJ. Professor. Msc.<br>
Instituto Federal do Rio de Janeiro - IFRJ<br>
Campus Maracanã<br>
<a href="mailto:moises.nisenbaum@ifrj.edu.br" target="_blank">moises.nisenbaum@ifrj.edu.br</a></div>
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