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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think that Koichiro is right. I would say more, though: that the loops just have to be non-reducible to look a lot like biological things. This is basically
Robert Rosen’s position. The sort of loops required aren’t just iterations (that can be decomposed). Rather they are the sort of loop that logicians (and Rosen) call impredicative. Such loopy things have no computable model. As Rosen points out there are far
more functions of this sort than merely iterative kind. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Fis [mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Koichiro Matsuno<br>
<b>Sent:</b> July 27, 2015 4:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Marcos Ortega Luis de'; 'fis'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">At 4:13 AM 07/27/2015,
</span><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">Luis de Marcos Ortega wrote:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">a) cycles can imply infinite loops that in our opinion are not appropriate to model human actions</span><span lang="ES" style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">b) even considering cycles a set of actions can still be modeled a as a tree, so we consider that loops add unnecessary
complexity to the model</span><span lang="ES" style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:15.0pt"><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">Loops are clumsy, to be sure. Nonetheless, loops look indispensable in implementing the cohesion for making an
organization. An organization maintaining itself through the exchange of component elements has recourse to the cohesion acting between the individual elements incumbent in the organized body and the de novo individuals to be recruited from nearby for replacemt.
In fact, a loop can be the cohesive factor of a structural nature emerging from the participating individuals.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:15.0pt"><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:15.0pt"><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:JA">Koichiro<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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