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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dear Jerry, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you for responding to my post.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you very much for an attempt to read and to understand my Vienna Symposium related publications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I apologize for a delay in my response – I was trying to read and to understand your papers (“Algebraic Biology” and “<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265238674_Physical_Foundations_of_Organic_Mathematics_%28Abstract_August_26_2014%29"><span lang=EN style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Physical Foundations of Organic Mathematics”). </span><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Unfortunately, I did not understand much of what you are talking there (about biological computations).</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='color:black'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265238674_Physical_Foundations_of_Organic_Mathematics_%28Abstract_August_26_2014%29"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Never mind, it is my fault, not yours. To my shame, I often also do not understand what other people on the forum are writing too. </span></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>As to me, I think (and write) that the era of a computational approach to science and nature studies is over and we are gradually replacing it with a cognitive approach. (</span><span lang=EN style='color:black'>Computational biology, Computational ecology, Computational neuroscience, Computational genomics, Computational chemistry, Computational endocrinology, Computational intelligence, Computational linguistics and so on are now being replaced with Cognitive biology, Cognitive ecology, Cognitive neuroscience, Cognitive genomics, Cognitive endocrinology, Cognitive intelligence, Cognitive linguistics, and even Cognitive computing).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='color:black'>By definition, computational approaches imply intensive data processing, while Cognitive approaches imply dedicated information processing. What is the difference? Unfortunately, FIS forum does not dwell on this issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I was pleased to hear from Prof. Kun Wu (at his opening lecture in Vienna) that “By means of the reformation, all scientific and philosophical domains are facing an integrative trend of paradigm reform, which I name as “<b>informationalization of science</b>”, (The quotation is from one of his presentation slides). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>As you can see, my assertions are very close to what Prof. Kun Wu claims, but far from what you (and other mainstream FIS contributors) obey and adhere to. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I am a newcomer to FIS and I do not intend to preach in the others’ temple. But Prof. Kun Wu is one of the founding fathers of the Philosophy of Information. Therefore, it would be wise for you to be in an agreement with his postulates. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Emanuel Diamant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chandler@me.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2015 8:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Emanuel Diamant<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] FIS newcomer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Emanuel:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for posting your views on Research Gate.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Interesting perspective, but... the essence of biology / biological computation are empirical observations that are highly irregular in nature. One must separate the concepts of structures from functions in the languages of chemistry and biology.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You may wish to look at the concepts of languages from your perspectives.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Several of my online available papers will provide more substance for these comments.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>jerry<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Emanuel Diamant wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear FISlists,<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am a newcomer to the FIS discussion table. The debate that is going on in your list-exchange is very interesting to me, but frankly, for the most of the time, I only guess about what you are talking – my vocabulary and my notions of Information are quite different from yours. Nevertheless, I would like to add my voice to the ongoing discourse – I would like to direct you to my page on the Research Gate (<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Emanuel_Diamant"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Emanuel_Diamant</span></a>) to see my uploads from the last IS4IS Vienna Conference. Maybe you will find them interesting.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best regards,<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Emanuel Diamant.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>Fis mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Fis@listas.unizar.es</span></a><br><a href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>