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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear All,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree with Rafael that there is an anti-realist
flavor to Popper's concept of problems. However, it indicates to me an intiution
that there is something important going on between disciplines. This is a
dynamic aspect which I feel is not captured by diagrams such as Loet's :-) in
which the connections between disciplines are represented by sets of
lines.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would not be so hard as Dino on bibliometrics as
such, but I think that once classifications and maps have been established, it
is important to talk about where to go next.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joseph</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Fis] RV: THE FOURTH GREAT
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size=2><B>De:</B> Rafael Capurro [rafael@capurro.de]<BR><B>Enviado el:</B>
sábado, 16 de mayo de 2015 9:34<BR><B>Para:</B> PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN
FERNANDEZ<BR><B>Asunto:</B> Re: [Fis] THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE:
INFORMATIONAL?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Karl Popper once suggested (Conjectures and
Refutations, p. 67) that we should not think in terms or "subject matter(s)"
or "disciplines" but in terms of "problems". Problems do not arise within a
fixed definition of a discipline ("essentialism") but within a tradition
where a theory is being discussed. In this sense, theories are in some sense
"disciplines" or can be conceived as "loose clusters" of theories. But
Popper speaks about a "world of problems in themselves" which is a kind of
Platonism not only because it separates such "problems in themselves" from
their connection to the world _as_ perceived (ie. interpreted) by humans,
but also because it creates a knowledge hierarchy by giving
theoretical knowledge a higher status than practical knowledge. Thirty years
ago (sic) I wrote some thoughts on this issue. See: <A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.capurro.de/trita.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.capurro.de/trita.htm</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Rafael<BR>
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size=2></FONT><BR>It is important to say that Rosembloom suggested a new
way of seeing disciplines. For him, any discipline is composed by 4
great scientific domains (these domains are not disciplines). For
example: biophysics = L + P (chapter 2).<BR>To be a great domain there
are requisites (chapter 6) and we defend that Informational is the 4th
scientific domain.<BR>The problem is to verify (with bibliometrics) if
this is a good approach. I think Loet's method can be a very good to
make this verification.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Best,</P>
<P dir=ltr>Moisés André Nisenbaum<BR>Enviado do meu tablet</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>Em 15/05/2015 12:43, "Dino Buzzetti" <<A
href="mailto:dino.buzzetti@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dino.buzzetti@gmail.com</A>> escreveu:<BR
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style="FONT-FAMILY: trebuchet ms,sans-serif">And what about history,
philosophy, philology and so on ? aren't they <BR>sciences at
all ? what's the epistemological ground of your "classification"
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style="FONT-FAMILY: trebuchet ms,sans-serif">of sciences ? isn't
the absence of maths in the map a problem at all ? aren't
<BR>biology, physics, computer science, and other natural sciences,
mentioned <BR>in philosophy of science, history of science and so on
? is the history of <BR>science an historian's or a natural
scientist's business ? do natural scientists <BR>care about it
at all ? or isn't it anybody's concern the extension of
bibliometric <BR>criteria to the evaluation of research in the domains
of history, philosophy, <BR>and so on ?
<BR></DIV>Best,
-dino buzzetti <BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 15 May 2015 at 10:25, Loet Leydesdorff <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net"
target=_blank>loet@leydesdorff.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Dear
Soren, </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">We
formulated at p. 591 of: Loet Leydesdorff, Stephen Carley, and
Ismael Rafols, <A
href="http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.1914.pdf"
target=_blank>Global Maps of Science based on the new Web-of-Science
Categories, </A><I>Scientometrics</I> 94(2) (2013) 589-593; <<A
href="http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11192-012-0784-8"
target=_blank>open access</A>> [<A
href="http://www.leydesdorff.net/overlaytoolkit/"
target=_blank>software</A>], as follows: </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #44546a; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">“The
organization into these four groups (biomedical, physical,
environmental, and social sciences) is now provided as another
(optional) partition within the Pajek (.paj) file containing the
base map, and is also made available as input to
VOSviewer.”</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #44546a; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
partitioning into four and six domains was generated by my
co-authors. I prefer to use the 19 disciplines on the basis of
factor analysis of the matrix. However, one can ask for a
four-factor solution, and then one is free to designate the
factors.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In
the figure below, I overlaid Pedro’s 23 publications included in WoS
in terms of these four major domains. Making such portfolio overlays
is the main purpose of the technique.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><IMG
height=513 src="cid:7CD5B633D293461587F0C11B2BDA1C39@PCdeJoseph"
width=1021 border=0></SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
nodes are sized with the log(n+1); n is the number of publications.
(The “+1” prevents single publications from
disappearing.)</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Best,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Loet</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">PS.
This is my second mailing during this week. L.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Loet
Leydesdorff </SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
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University of Amsterdam<BR>Amsterdam School of Communication
Research (ASCoR)</SPAN></P>
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title=mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net href="mailto:loet@leydesdorff.net"
target=_blank><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">loet@leydesdorff.net
</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
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</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #44546a; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><A
title=http://www.leydesdorff.net/ href="http://www.leydesdorff.net/"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">http://www.leydesdorff.net/</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">University
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