<div dir="ltr">Caro Joseph e cari Tutti,<div>anche se rischio di essere bloccato o frainteso perché non ho voce linguistica di moda, nei numerosi interventi precedenti ho sottolineato l'importanza della parola composta emo-ra-zionalità, risultato della combinazione della "intelligenza emotiva" e della razionalità intellettuale. Nessuna descrizione non poetica della realtà può essere completa. Ilya Prigogine ha proposto di adottare nel campo della scienza il paradigma della musica. Henri Poincarè ritiene, talvolta, le equazioni o le funzione un "museo teratologico" ed i modelli paradigmatici una scelta "convenzionale" o di comodità o di utilità. In "Incontro d'amore del cuore della fede e dell'intelligenza della scienza" (Aracne editrice, Roma, 2014) ho sostenuto la necessità del dialogo tra fede, ragione e scienza. Albert Einstein afferma che ciò che si può contare (computare) non conta e ciò che conta non si può contare (computare). Secondo John D. Barrow che gli "aspetti eventuali" del mondo non si possono riconoscere o generare con una sequenza di passi logici. La bellezza, la semplicità, la verità sono tutte, in questo senso, "proprietà eventuali". Non c'è alcuna formula magica o nessun programma o nessuna equazione che può generare tutta la bellezza o tutta la bruttezza del mondo. Le mail che ho inviato il 10, 15 e 18 marzo (non solo quest'ultima) in modo telegrafico affrontano questa problematica, purtroppo, non sono state tenute in considerazione. Ciò mi dispiace, ma non mi spinge a trascurare i contributi di tutti Voi che ringrazio per quanto m'insegnate. Grazie e affettuosi saluti.</div><div>Francesco Rizzo.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-03-19 19:27 GMT+01:00 <a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Chuan, Rafael and All,<br><br>There is a point in this exchange which perhaps should be addressed explicitly: everybody knows that people differ in their capacity to appreciate poetry emotionally. But we also differ in the capacity to appreciate the importance of poetry and art for science; this might be said to require an<br>'intelligence' of poetry. Perhaps someone else can express better what I am trying to say here.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Joseph<br><br>P.S. Admirers of Basho's haiku are directed to his far superior one to which this is a Californian response:<br><br>Warm cloudy day in Spring<br>Perched on a fresh leafy branch<br>A young tow-hee <br><blockquote style="margin-right:0px;margin-left:15px">----Message d'origine----<br>De : <a href="mailto:rafael@capurro.de" target="_blank">rafael@capurro.de</a><br>Date : 19/03/2015 - 08:35 (PST)<br>À : <a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>Objet : Re: [Fis] Chuan's reply8 - THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE-- an old poem as an echo<div><div><br><br>
<div>Dear Chuan,<br>
thanks for sharing this poem.<br>
Allow me to thank you also with these texts where I try to reflect
on Dao and Information Society<br>
<a href="http://www.capurro.de/china_infoethics2010.html" target="_blank">http://www.capurro.de/china_infoethics2010.html</a><br>
This is a Chinese translation: <a href="http://www.capurro.de/beijing2011_chinese_version.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.capurro.de/beijing2011_chinese_version.pdf</a><br>
See also: <a href="http://www.capurro.de/DB_Akademie.html" target="_blank">http://www.capurro.de/DB_Akademie.html</a><br>
See also my activities and presentations in China:<br>
<a href="http://www.capurro.de/home-cn.html" target="_blank">http://www.capurro.de/home-cn.html</a><br>
best regards<br>
Rafael Capurro<br>
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<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:9pt" lang="EN-US">Stanley N Salthe</span><span lang="EN-US"> and All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>I am back to
my duty from ten days hard work. Reliving from tired let
me come back to the breakpoint – Stanley’s poem echo to
Emily – and my draft reply as a new poem the same. I will
finish and put out next mail – reply as another poem is
“The Song of the Computer” and another poem on Internet.
These two have send in our FIS years ago. And now “here a
stay, and there a star”, now “ struggling to affect each
other from our slowly burning bodies”, let us put these
stars here again as a bunch of flower first.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Let this as my
echo. We can image a Science fiction: long long after,
there is a country, there <span> </span>set
such an law : if you have not replied an poet’s poem at
once, if delay five days, you are evil. So let me use an
old poem echo your poem as soon as I finished my heavy
work. <span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Thanks for you
poem. That is nice!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>More reply and
the new later. <span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Chuan <span> </span><span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2015-3-19<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>发件人:</b> "Stanley N Salthe" <a href="mailto:ssalthe@binghamton.edu" target="_blank"><ssalthe@binghamton.edu></a><br>
<b>发送时间:</b> 2015-03-14 03:41:00<br>
<b>收件人:</b> "赵川" <a href="mailto:zhaoc@cdut.edu.cn" target="_blank"><zhaoc@cdut.edu.cn></a><br>
<b>抄送:</b> <br>
<b>主题:</b> Re: [Fis] Chuan's reply7 - THE FRONTIERS OF
INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE-- a poem & the π-festival<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Chuan, fis'rs
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<div>Here is a poem I wrote a couple of years ago:</div>
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<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px">internet fellowship </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> is like --</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> being in heaven?</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;MIN-HEIGHT:12px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"></span><br>
</p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px">we’re</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> disembodied spirits</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> struggling to
affect</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> each other.</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;MIN-HEIGHT:12px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"></span><br>
</p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px">patterns of ‘on and off’ in
the waves and wires</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px">like cells in an organism</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;MIN-HEIGHT:12px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"></span><br>
</p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> we’re disembodied spirits
launched from our slowly burning bodies,</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> the fuel for our
cognitions,</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> like charcoal
for a flame</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;MIN-HEIGHT:12px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"></span><br>
</p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px">maybe this is (what) heaven
(is like)</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0px;FONT:10px Helvetica"><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"> launched upon the
embers of hell.</span></p>
</div>
<div><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="LETTER-SPACING:0px">STAN</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:18 AM, 赵川
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zhaoc@cdut.edu.cn" target="_blank">zhaoc@cdut.edu.cn</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><b>Dear FISers, </b></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>These days I
am doing a heavy and important work that I can not
finish my respond mail. Though there are many
ideas emerge in my mind. </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Let me put a
poem of Emily </span><span lang="EN-US">DIKINSON</span><span lang="EN-US"> in our dear discussion. <span> </span><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN:center;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt" lang="EN-US"><b>OUR
SHARE OF NIGHT TO BEAR</b></span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT:136.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"></span> </p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT:136.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Emily DIKINSON</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Our share of nights to hear –</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Our share of morning –</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Our blank in bliss to fill </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Our blank in scorning – </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"></span> </p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here a star, and there a star,</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Some lose their way!</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here a mist, and there a mist,</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Afterwards – Day!</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt 105pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span>
</span>1890</span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT:78.75pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">c.1859</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>For I thought
of the image of “here is a star, and there is a
star” and looked for this poem to share here. Let
us shine and share.</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Dear Joseph, I
agree with the Stanislaw Lem’s opinion. </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Yes, she is
right: afterwards – Day!</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Tomorrow is </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:宋体">π</span><span lang="EN-US">-festival
– March 14 - 3.14. I celebrated a</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:宋体">π</span><span lang="EN-US">-festival
this afternoon. That is wonderful. And it is the
birthday of Einstein the same. </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Cheers!</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Chuan</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">March 13, 2015</span></p>
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