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<DIV><FONT size=4>Dear Francesco, FIS,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>It is no need to be mathematician to understand that
composition of a function f and f<SUP>-1</SUP> gives identity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>In other words, if you use Google translator to translate from
Italian to English and after that received text you will translate back to
Italian you may control what was received in English.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>After small number of corrections you will receive correct
text in English.</FONT></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>I see you may read English and I wish you
success!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>Friendly regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>Krassimir</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>To see that this is quite possible please see the
translation of the text above from English to Italian.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri>I do not know Italian and this is my first
translation, but I am sure that it is correct <IMG
class="wlEmoticon wlEmoticon-smile"
style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none"
alt=Smile src="cid:A7C66DD5D1FC41B8A3C34B08C81E3B18@VaioMarkov"> !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV><SPAN class=hps><FONT size=4
face=Calibri>Caro</FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Calibri><FONT size=4> <SPAN
class=hps>Francesco, FIS,</SPAN><BR><SPAN class=hps>Non è</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>necessario essere</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>matematico</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>per capire</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>che la composizione</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>di</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>una funzione</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>f</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps>e</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>f</SPAN><SPAN class=atn><SUP><SPAN
class=atn>-</SPAN><SPAN>1</SPAN></SUP></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>dà</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>identità</SPAN><SPAN>.</SPAN><BR><SPAN
class=hps>In</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>altre</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>parole</SPAN><SPAN>,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>se si utilizza</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps>Google</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>traduttore per tradurre</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps>da italiano a inglese</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>e</SPAN><SPAN>,
dopo</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>che il testo</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>ricevuto</SPAN>
<SPAN class=hps>tradurrà</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>Torna a Italiano</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>è possibile controllare</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>ciò che</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>si riceve</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>in</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>inglese</SPAN><SPAN>.</SPAN><BR><SPAN class=hps>Dopo</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>un piccolo numero di</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>correzioni</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>riceverete</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>testo corretto</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>in</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>inglese</SPAN><SPAN>.</SPAN><BR><SPAN
class=hps>Vedo</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>si può leggere</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>l'inglese</SPAN><SPAN>,</SPAN> <SPAN class=hps>e</SPAN> <SPAN
class=hps>vi auguro successo</SPAN><SPAN>!</SPAN><BR><SPAN class=hps>Amichevoli
saluti</SPAN><BR><SPAN class=hps>Krassimir</SPAN></FONT></FONT>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Collierj@ukzn.ac.za
href="mailto:Collierj@ukzn.ac.za">John Collier</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=zyx@bupt.edu.cn href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn">钟义信</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fis@listas.unizar.es
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es">fis</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao
Chuan</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>List,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>I
find that it works well to use Google Translate. It is hardly perfect, but much
better than Bing, which gives laughable translations. I have used it here in
Brazil on both my computer and cell phone, as well as having my bank use it when
there were communications problems. Here is the translation I got this
time:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Dear
Yixin Zhong and Dear All,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>I'm
sorry that my words are not understood. On the other hand I do not want to miss
out on anyone. Who can understand it is free to do or not to use as I want. The
world turns the same, including the field of intelligence, regardless of my
words. Anyway, thank you and best wishes for a well-deserved
success.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Francesco
Rizzo.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Best,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>John<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A name=_MailEndCompose><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></A> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fis
[mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Francesco
Rizzo<BR><B>Sent:</B> March 18, 2015 7:21 AM<BR><B>To:</B> </SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "PMingLiU","serif"'>钟义信</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'><BR><B>Cc:</B>
fis<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao
Chuan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Caro Yixin Zhong e Cari Tutti,<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>mi dispiace che le mie parole non siano capite. D'altra parte
non voglio mancare di riguardo a nessuno. Chi le può comprendere è libero di
farne o non farne l'uso che vuole. Il mondo gira lo stesso, compreso il campo
dell'intelligenza, a prescindere dalle mie parole. Comunque, grazie e auguri di
un meritato successo.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Francesco Rizzo.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2015-03-15 12:12 GMT+01:00 <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">钟义信</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn"
target=_blank>zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A>>:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Dear </P>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Times New Roman">Caro Yixin Zhong e Cari Tutti, </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">mi dispiace che le mie parole non siano
capite. D'altra parte non voglio mancare di riguardo a nessuno. Chi le può
comprendere è libero di farne o non farne l'uso che vuole. Il mondo gira lo
stesso, compreso il campo dell'intelligenza, a prescindere dalle mie parole.
Comunque, grazie e auguri di un meritato successo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Francesco Rizzo.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<P>,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>Thank you for your e-mail.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>I am sorry not to give you a reply because I am unable to understand your
language.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>Yixin ZHONG<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>----- <SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>回复</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">邮件</SPAN> -----<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">发信人</SPAN>:</B>Francesco Rizzo <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com"
target=_blank>13francesco.rizzo@gmail.com</A>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>收信人</SPAN>:</B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">钟义信</SPAN> <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn"
target=_blank>zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>抄送</SPAN>:</B>JohnPrpic <<A
href="mailto:prpic@sfu.ca" target=_blank>prpic@sfu.ca</A>>,fis <<A
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">时间</SPAN>:</B>2015<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>年</SPAN>03<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>月</SPAN>15<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>日</SPAN> 18<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">时</SPAN>01<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>分</SPAN>07<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>秒</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>主</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">题</SPAN>:</B>Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF
INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Cari Tutti,<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>seguendo, per quel che posso capire, la discussione che si è
accesa a proposito dell'intelligenza della scienza o della scienza
dell'intelligenza, mi piace ricordare che il concetto di "caos" dimostra la sua
importanza quando guida i ricercatori a creare nuove idee. I sistemi caotici
sono creativi. Senza questa creatività la legislazione del nostro
intelletto non potrebbe conferire forma (tras-informare) e significare i
dati altrimenti sconnessi dell'esperienza. Le trascendenze intellettuali e
le intuizioni empiriche servono a costruire la concordanza o la connessione tra
le leggi del cervello e le leggi della natura o della società che si
com-penetrano, esaltano e nobilitano reciprocamente.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Saluti augurali e grati.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Francesco Rizzo.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2015-03-12 10:57 GMT+01:00 <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">钟义信</SPAN> <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn"
target=_blank>zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A>>:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">Dear John, <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">Thank you very much for the comments you made,
which are very useful for me to think about.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">May I just say a few words as my simple responses
to the two points you wrote in your mail.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">-- To my understanding, "context" and "goals"
among others are necessary elements for an intelligence science system.
Otherwise it would be unable to know where to go, what to do and how to do. In
the latter case, it cannot be regards as intelligence system. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">-- As an intelligent system, it would
usually be self-organized under certain conditions. This means thar the system
has clear goal(s), is able to acquire the information about the changes in
environment, able to learn the strategy for adjusting the structures of the
system so as to adapt the system to the exchanged environment. This is the
capability of self-organizing. If the change of the environment is sufficiently
complex and the system is able to adapt itself to the change, then the system
can be said a compplex system.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">Do you think so? Or you have different
understanding?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt">Yixin ZHONG <o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">邮件</SPAN> -----<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">发信人</SPAN>:</B>John Prpic <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window" href="mailto:prpic@sfu.ca"
target=_blank>prpic@sfu.ca</A>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>收信人</SPAN>:</B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">钟义信</SPAN> <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn"
target=_blank>zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>抄送</SPAN>:</B>fis
<<A title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">时间</SPAN>:</B>2015<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>年</SPAN>03<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>月</SPAN>12<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>日</SPAN> 11<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">时</SPAN>43<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>分</SPAN>09<SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>秒</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"'>主</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu">题</SPAN>:</B>Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF
INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Dear Professor Zhong &
Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Unsurprisingly, some very rich
food for thought in the FIS group so far this year!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Here's a few comments that I hope
are useful in some respect:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">- As I think about the idea of
intelligence science as put forward, would it be useful to say that "context"
and "goals" (as constructs) would always be antecedents to intelligence science
outcomes?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Said another way, must
intelligence science systems always include these two elements (among others) in
a particular system configuration?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">- Also, when I look at the list of
"elementary abilities" of intelligence science (ie A-M), it strikes me that more
than a few of them can currently be considered to be core knowledge management
techniques (storing, retrieving, transferring, transforming of information
etc)... therefore, is there a difference between intelligence science in systems
that are self-organized (ie complexity science), compared to intelligence
science systems that are not self-organized? Must all intelligence science
systems display complexity?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Best,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">John<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>From:
</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>"</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">钟义信</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>" <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn" target=_blank>zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>"joe brenner" <<A title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch"
target=_blank>joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</A>><BR><B>Cc: </B>"dai.griffiths.1"
<<A title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:dai.griffiths.1@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dai.griffiths.1@gmail.com</A>>, "fis" <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A>><BR><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, 11 March,
2015 19:07:36<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fis]THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE
SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Dear Joe,
Steven, and other friends,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>It is
interesting, ans also benefitial,to have had opportunities to, via FIS
forum,exchange ideas with you colleagues under the topic of intelihence
science.Special thanks go to Joe, Steven, and other friends for their good
comments! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Intelligence science
is, of course, asort of complex science and would not be easy to thoroughly
understand in a short period of time. However,it is the right time to have it
concerned seriously for now as, on one hand,it is extremely important for human
kinds and, on the other hand, it is possible for researchers to make progress
toward this direction based on the successes we have already achieved in the
studies of information science and artificial intelligence so
far.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>As for the
conceptual distinktionsbetween intelligence scienceand information science,
between intelligence scienceand artificial intelligence, and between
intelligence and wisdom, we may, for the moment,mention the
followings:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>-- The
scope of intelligence science would be regarded as almost the same as that of
information science, provided that the studies of information science
willcontain not only information itself but also the products of information,in
which knowledge andintelligent strategy for problem solving are major
components.In other words, the studies of information science should adopt the
view of ecological system. This is also the reason why the topic of intelligence
science be brought to FIS forum. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>--
According to the current status of the research in artificial intelligence
(AI),its scope ofstudiesis much narrower than that of intelligence science. As a
matter of fact, AI for the time being is a category of technological research,
using computer as platform to support some smart software for solving certain
problems. AI should be a kind of multi-disciplinary research, but it has majnly
been confined within the scope of computer science. Not long ago, some of theAI
researchers started todealing withthe emotion problem, butit still in its infant
stage. Moreover, the topic of consciousness is still ignored in AI. So , AI is
indeed incomparable to intelligence science, not to say to human
intelligence.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>-- The
relationship between intelligence and wisdom is sometimes confused. If
intelligence is referredto human intelligence, it would be the same as wisdom.
However, if the concept of intelligence is referred tomachine intelligence, then
it should be regarded as a sub-set of wisdom. The most typical attribute for
wisdom is the creative capabilities that would be impossible for machine to
simulation. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>In
addition, it is also worth of mentioning that due to the special propertiesthat
information and intelligence possess andthat are greatly different from that of
matter, the methodology for information science and intelligence science studies
should be radically differnet from that employed in physical science. No doubt,
everyone will entierly recognize the huge contributions made by the redictionism
(divide and conquer) which will still play a central role in contemporary
physical science studies. But reductionism will certainly be not enough for
information and intelligence science studies. Cuttinghuman brain into a number
of parts andclearly knowing the matter structure and the energy relation within
each of the parts (that is the so called'divide and conquer')will make little
contribution to the understanding the secrets ofhuman brain'sfunction of
thinking.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Whether it
is OK or not? comments are welcome.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Yixin
ZHONG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn"
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Chuan Zhao <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>主</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">题</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Re: Re: [Fis] THE
FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR>Dear
All,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I think that the
approach of Chuan - and that of Professor Zhong - to intelligence is
characterized by its TIMELESSNESS. On the one hand, it is the newest, most
forward-looking, taking into account the existence of the latest technology. On
the other, it ties back, through Chinese culture, to 2015 BCE, when human
intelligence was no different than it is today. Full value can then be given to
the term 'Frontiers'.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>The result of this
scope is that, sometimes, the answers to the questions that are asked receive
responses that are less precise than some might like. But this is a small price
to pay for gaining a better overall grip on the critical concepts, in their
historical and philosophical depth, to which Professor Zhong refers.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Joseph<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>----Message
d'origine----<BR>De : <A title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:zyx@bupt.edu.cn" target=_blank>zyx@bupt.edu.cn</A><BR>Date :
10/03/2015 - 17:38 (PST)<BR>À : <A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:dai.griffiths.1@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dai.griffiths.1@gmail.com</A>, <A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
target=_blank>fis@listas.unizar.es</A><BR>Objet : Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF
INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Dear
Dai,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Many thanks
foryour comments on the topics thatI raised March 7 forFIS
discussion.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>What I
wanted tostress in my writing of March 7 is thatthe intelligence science and the
related concepts like intelligence and wisdom are complexones and therefore the
traditional methodology featured with "divide and conquer" should be no longer
suitablefor intelligence science studies. At the same time,I also recommended to
the intelligence science studies the new methodology, or equivalently the
complex science methodology,that may be featured with the view of information,
the view of system, the view of ecology, and the view of interaction between
subject and object. In other words, what I would like to emphasized is the
methodology shift from reductionism to complex science methodologyfor
theintelligence science studies.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>If we have
the common understanding on the above points, I willfeel satisfied very
much.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>As for the
intelligence science itselfand its related concepts like intelligence ,
artificial intelligence, advanced artificial intelligence, and wisdom, etc.,
they are too complicated for people to reach the agreement for the time being.
Weshould make much moreefforts for achieving better understandings on those
complicated subjects.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Yixin
ZHONG, 2015-03-11<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">发信人</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Dai Griffiths <<A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>fis <<A
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href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es"
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Thanks for sharing
these ideas, which, for me, raise a long standing problem.<BR><BR>The concept of
'intelligence' emerged as an ascription of a quality to humans and other animals
who are capable of certain capabilities. That is to say, the starting point was
the behaviours, and this led to the definition of the concept which
charactarised those behaviours. This seems to be what you are describing in your
section 1. The Concept of Intelligence, with the list (a) to (m).<BR><BR>In
section 2, on the other hand, you speak of 'problem solving' as 'the major
embodiment of intelligence'. In this case, 'intelligence' is no longer a
description of behaviours, but rather the entity which makes those behaviours
possible. <BR><BR>There is nothing wrong with hypothesising that an ascribed
quality is in fact a verifiable entity. We can go and look for evidence that the
entity exists, and that is often how science moves forward. But in the present
case the concept of general intelligence (G), as a causal force rather than a
statistical tool, is open to doubt. If there is a general intelligence (as
opposed to a collection of capabilities) which can be 'embodied' in problem
solving, then a number of difficult problems are raised. Where does this general
intelligence reside? What is it composed of? How is it deployed in our problem
solving and other aspects of our living?<BR><BR>Our understanding of this is
complicated by our experience of day to day interactions, in which we interact
with people as wholes rather than a collection of individual capabilities. This
gives us the intuition that some people have more of the quality of general
intelligence about them than do others. And in our language it is reasonable to
have a word which refers to that impression which we have, and that is how we
use the word 'intelligence'. But in our scientific endeavours we need to be more
cautious and critical, and aspire to making a distinction between observable
mechanisms and ascribed qualities (not that this is necessarily easy to achieve
in methodological terms). Because of this I am sympathetic to Steven's request
for differentiation of the topics and types of inquiry. If we do not go down
this road then we should recognise the possibility that we will end up with a
theory which is the equivalent of the phlogiston explanation for
combustion.<BR><BR>My background is in education, not in intelligence research,
so I am happy to be corrected by those with greater
expertise!<BR><BR>Dai<BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt"><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Dear Pedro,Thank you very much for recommending Ms. ZHAO's good topic, intelligence science, for discussion at FIS platform. I think it very much valuable that Ms. ZHAO put forward to us the great challenge of methodology shift. The attached file expressed some of my understanding on this iuuse that I would like to share with FIS friends.Best regards,Yixin ZHONG----- </SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>回复</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">邮件</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> -----*</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">发信人</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">:*Pedro C. Marijuan <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target=_blank>mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</A>*</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>收信人</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">:*fis <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target=_blank>mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es</A>*</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">时间</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">:*2015</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>年</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">03</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>月</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">04</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>日</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> 19</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">时</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">58</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>分</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">15</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>秒</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">*</SPAN><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "MS Gothic"; COLOR: black'>主</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: mingliu; COLOR: black">题</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">:*Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan Dear Chuan and FIS colleagues, The scientific study of intelligence is quite paradoxical. One is reminded about the problems of psychology and ethology to create adequate categories and frameworks about animal and human intelligence. The approaches started in Artificial Intelligence were quite glamorous three or four decades ago, but the limitations were crystal clear at the end of the 80's. It marked the beginning of Artificial Life and quite many other views at the different frontiers of the theme (complexity theory, biocybernetics, biocomputing, etc.) Also an enlarged Information Science was vindicated as the best option to clear the air (Stonier, Scarrott... and FIS itself too). In that line, Advanced Artificial Intelligence, as proposed by Yixin Zhong and others, has represented in my view a bridge to connect with our own works in information science. That connection between information "processing" and intelligence is essential. But in our occasional discussions on the theme we have always been centered in, say, the scientific quasi-mechanistic perspectives. It was time to enter the humanistic dimensions and the connection with the arts. Then, this discussion revolves around the central pillar to fill in the gap between sciences and humanities, the "two cultures" of CP Snow. The global human intelligence, when projected to the world, creates different "disciplinary" realms that are more an historical result that a true, genuine necessity. We are caught, necessarily given our limitations, in a perspectivistic game, but we have the capacity to play and mix the perspectives... multidisciplinarity is today the buzzword, though perhaps not well addressed and explained yet. So, your reflections Chao are quite welcome. best--Pedro -- ------------------------------------------------- Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) Avda. San Juan Bosco, 13, planta X 50009 Zaragoza, Spain Tfno. <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="tel:%2B34%20976%2071%203526" target=_blank>+34 976 71 3526</A> (& 6818) <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es" target=_blank>pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es</A> <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/" target=_blank>http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/</A> ------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Fis mailing list <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es" target=_blank>Fis@listas.unizar.es</A> <A title="This external link will open in a new window" href="http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis" target=_blank>http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></PRE>
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