Dear Krassimir and All,<br><br>I think what Zhao Chuan is trying to do is essential for progress in Intelligence Science. We are all familiar with concrete scientific approaches, and no-one is challenging their on-going necessity. However, their limitations are also a scientific fact, and new qualitative perspectives, especially if they are rigorous as well as broad, are to be welcomed. I was aware of the new publication of Shi and I am sure Chuan has factored it into her approach. Thank you for the link, Krassimir, which is a useful one.<br><br>It is also a scientific fact that, roughly corresponding to the geographical limits of their territory, people have other forms of thought which co-exist with 'ours', in reply to the comment about geography. The Hopi Native Americans, living in a tiny area on three small mountains in the U.S. state of New Mexico, have an extraordinarily complex system of thought and concept of knowledge that we have much to learn from. It fits, among other things, the scientific criterion of reproducibility.<br><br>Having said that, I agree with Jerry and would urge Chuan to tell us more about the specific projects in which she and her students are engaged. <br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Joseph<br><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Message d'origine----<br>De : markov@foibg.com<br>Date : 04/03/2015 - 05:39 (PST)<br>À : pcmarijuan.iacs@aragon.es, fis@listas.unizar.es<br>Objet : Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan<br><br>
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<div>Dear Chuan, Pedro, and FIS colleagues,</div>
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<div>We need more concrete point of view to provide discussion.</div>
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<div>Maybe it will be good to take in account the paper: </div>
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<div>Zhongzhi Shi. On Intelligence Science // International Journal of Advanced
Intelligence</div>
<div>Volume 1, Number 1, pp.39-57, November, 2009.</div>
<div><a href="http://aia-i.com/ijai/sample/vol1/no1/39-57.pdf">http://aia-i.com/ijai/sample/vol1/no1/39-57.pdf</a>
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<div>Intelligence Science is an interdisciplinary subject which dedicates to
joint research on</div>
<div>basic theory and technology of intelligence by brain science, cognitive
science, artificial</div>
<div>intelligence and others. Brain science explores the essence of brain,
research on the principle</div>
<div>and model of natural intelligence in molecular, cell and behavior level.
Cognitive science</div>
<div>studies human mental activity, such as perception, learning, memory,
thinking, consciousness</div>
<div>etc. In order to implement machine intelligence, artificial intelligence
attempts</div>
<div>simulation, extension and expansion of human intelligence using artificial
methodology</div>
<div>and technology. Research scientists coming from above three disciplines
work together</div>
<div>to explore new concept, new theory, new methodology. It will be successful
and create a</div>
<div>brilliant future in 21 century.</div>
<div>The paper will outline the framework of intelligence science and present
the ten big</div>
<div>issues. Research approaches will be pointed out. Finally the paper gives
perspective for</div>
<div>the future.</div>
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<div><font size="4">Friendly regards</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">PS: Dear Pedro, please forward to FIS this message if it is
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<div>-----Original Message----- </div>
<div>From: Pedro C. Marijuan </div>
<div>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:00 PM </div>
<div>To: 'fis' </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Fis] THE FRONTIERS OF INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE--Zhao Chuan </div>
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<div>Dear Chuan and FIS colleagues,</div>
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<div>The scientific study of intelligence is quite paradoxical. One is </div>
<div>reminded about the problems of psychology and ethology to create </div>
<div>adequate categories and frameworks about animal and human intelligence.
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<div>The approaches started in Artificial Intelligence were quite glamorous
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<div>three or four decades ago, but the limitations were crystal clear at the
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<div>end of the 80's. It marked the beginning of Artificial Life and quite
</div>
<div>many other views at the different frontiers of the theme (complexity </div>
<div>theory, biocybernetics, biocomputing, etc.) Also an enlarged </div>
<div>Information Science was vindicated as the best option to clear the air
</div>
<div>(Stonier, Scarrott... and FIS itself too). In that line, Advanced </div>
<div>Artificial Intelligence, as proposed by Yixin Zhong and others, has </div>
<div>represented in my view a bridge to connect with our own works in </div>
<div>information science. That connection between information "processing"
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<div>and intelligence is essential. But in our occasional discussions on the
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<div>theme we have always been centered in, say, the scientific </div>
<div>quasi-mechanistic perspectives. It was time to enter the humanistic </div>
<div>dimensions and the connection with the arts. Then, this discussion </div>
<div>revolves around the central pillar to fill in the gap between sciences
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<div>and humanities, the "two cultures" of CP Snow. </div>
<div>The global human intelligence, when projected to the world, creates </div>
<div>different "disciplinary" realms that are more an historical result that
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<div>a true, genuine necessity. We are caught, necessarily given our </div>
<div>limitations, in a perspectivistic game, but we have the capacity to play
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<div>and mix the perspectives... multidisciplinarity is today the buzzword,
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<div>though perhaps not well addressed and explained yet. So, your </div>
<div>reflections Chao are quite welcome. </div>
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<div>best--Pedro</div>
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